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Josiah Thompson re: the Moorman copies
AUGUST 27, 2015 BY ROBIN·0 COMMENTS
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Josiah Thompson (The history behind the Drumscan)
‘ll try to explain. In the spring of 1967, I was done with my LIFE assignment and was putting together all the details that went into Six Seconds. Mary Moorman’s photograph was extremely important since it showed the knoll at Z 315. I had done some research with AP and Wide World in New York concerning the negatives and prints of the photo that they had. But the original Polaroid was sitting in Dallas. I paid Mary Moorman for the use of her photo in Six Second. Part of the deal was that she would let a professional photographer come to her house and copy the Polaroid. I hired a professional photographer to do this. He went to her home and copied the Polaroid using a medium format camera where the negative itself is about the size of Moorman’s Polaroid. It was that negative from forty-five years ago that I had scanned in San Francisco. The drum scan resulting may turn out to be the highest resolution copy of the Moorman photo extant since the Polaroid itself has deteriorated further with each passing decade.
Coverups November 1984 “Mary Moorman” Gary Mack
Mary Moorman turning to the left to follow the limo
AUGUST 27, 2015 BY ROBIN·0 COMMENTS
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We know Mary turned her body to follow the limo
while Mary Moorman is facing forward her blue coat remains closed.
As Mary turns her body to the left to follow the limo with her camera, the wind catches her blue coat and starts blowing it open.
Also it is obvious that the position of her arms change as she turns left…
Zapruder GIF i made using the two frames shown above (stabilized on Mary)
http://jfkassassinationimages.net/index.php/2015/08/27/mary-takes-on-the-federal-government/
http://quaneeri2.blogspot.com/2015_08_01_archive.html
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Sunday, 16 August 2015
Cinque plays the alteration card (UPDATE 2)
The frames came from the PBS Nova “Cold Case JFK” Documentary HD 720P
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17pwl3_pbs-nova-2013-cold-case-jfk_school
Make sure you change the HD setting to 720P
Then you can apologize for saying that i posted Doctored and Photoshopped frames.
And so you don’t have to do your whole “pause” freeze frame YouTube crap, where you couldn’t save a decent frame to save your life.
And because i am so sick of looking at your piss poor, dark, fuzzy, YouTube Muchmore frames, i will tell you how to download it.
Download Firefox Browser, and then search for the “Flash video downloader plug in” in Add-Ons
that “plug in” will then allow Firefox browser to save the video to file
Then download “Media Player Classic” and “ffdshow codec pack”
that combination then allows you to Pause the film, and advance the film one frame at a time, and save each frame to file
http://download.cnet.com/Media-Player-Classic-Home-Cinema/3000-13632_4-199375.html
http://ffdshow.en.softonic.com/
If you can’t do that, then you have no right doing photo analysis on the assassination films.
and it will show that you are just another two bit amateur playing at being a JFK photo researcher
Are you blind Ralph try this frame
More crap YouTube Muchmore frames from Cinque
Try this Version
Saturday, 15 August 2015
Motorcycle height (UPDATE)
Bill Miller’s research proved that the overall height from the ground to the top of the motorcycle windshield was 58- inches
The curb was approx 8-inches high and Mary Moorman was 60-inches high ( Total=68 inches )
Mary Moorman’s camera hight was estimated to be approx 62-inches
quote:
At about the same time, Bill Miller came up with a proof of dazzling simplicity.
Dr. John Costella’s work showed clearly that Moorman camera’s lens was looking down on the tops of the motorcycle windshields and the strut over the top of the limousine. “In other words,” Dr. Costella explained, “her camera was pointed very, very slightly ‘downwards.'” From this it follows that the Moorman camera was positioned higher than the top of the limousine and the tops of the motorcycle windshields. How high was the top of the limousine? Numerous sources give the height as 57 inches. How high were the tops of the motorcycle windshields? Here Miller became quite ingenious. He got in touch with a motorcycle museum in Sturgis, North Dakota which had one of the Dallas motorcade motorcycles on display. The museum properly inflated the tires and put a man weighing 225 pounds on the cycle. They then measured the distance to the top of the windshield. It was 58 inches. Given the eight-inch curb, Moorman’s camera as shown in the Zapruder film was most likely at a height above the pavement of at least 61 or 62 inches. Had she taken her
photo from the street, her camera would of necessity have been located above her head!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~joejd/jfk/mgap/history.html
Ken McDonald composite
M43 Frame Showing the camera up to Mary Ann’s eye
M44 Frame Showing Mary Ann lower the camera and look up.
Friday, 14 August 2015
Ralph doesn’t know the difference between the Nix film, and the Muchmore film
Once again, it wasn’t a Nix Frame, it was Muchmore
Cinque said that he is going to Dealey Plaza (UPDATE)
He is going to do an EXACT recreation of Mary Ann’s Polaroid while standing at the Babushka lady location
He said he will capture the exact viewpoint as seen in the polaroid
from the three men on the steps location across to the Bill Newman location
it will also have to show the tree location all the way across to the top of the pergola, and include the section to the right of Zapruder,
Cinque quote:
it would only count if you also duplicate what we see in the Moorman photo. You still have to capture that whole great expanse of area that is seen in the picture, from where Bill Newman was standing down to past the steps. It’s all got to be there, just like in the Moorman photo.
that’s probably why the only one who is ever going to try to do it is me. And the outcome is going to be exactly
Since the Moorman Polaroid was taken from Mary Ann’s location
and NOT the Babushka lady location, this exercise in futility is doomed to failure before it even begins.
This is the way Cinque’s photo needs to be framed
EXACTLY as shown here;
The Mack / Thompson Moorman recreation photo came close to capturing the full view, but it didn’t include all of the fencline behind the three men on the steps
That photo was taken from Mary Ann’s standing location.
Requirements:
(1) – They have to film from Moorman’s exact standing location
(2) – They have to have the photo framed exactly as we see it in the Moorman polaroid
(3) – They have to have the motorcycle in the right location, same position on elm st
same distance out from the curb.
Wednesday, 12 August 2015
Dracula coat turns into curtain ?
The so called Dracula coat combines two elements, on the left we see Martin emerging from behind Mary Ann, and on the right is Mary Ann’s coat.
Its just a composite of Martins uniform and Mary Ann’s coat.
Cinque uses the crappiest frame he could find, so that he can just make shit up /
Ammatuer hour at the Cinque “fortress of solitude” (UPDATED)
where Cinque feels safe and protected from the outside world, and can post all the crap that he just pulls out of thin air.
He knows it wont be challenged on his blog, because he doesn’t allow any comments to be posted.
Cinque said that he moved Mary Ann’s position closer to the curb
he did no such thing, she is still in the same location, he just rubbed out the bottom half of her picture.
Another thing
look at the size of the tiny people on the other side of the road
Mary Ann looks like she is from the land of the giants
Saturday, 8 August 2015
Due to Joe Backes and Bpete having their blogs taken down
i have re-opened my blog.
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Ralph’s own photo proves him wrong
He insisted that Mary Moorman was NOT looking down on Martins motorcycle.
his own Muchmore frame proves that she was.
Cinque quote:
I don’t think anybody has done that in the history of humanity: be ready to take someone’s picture who was approaching from the right and not take it until he was this far past her. NEVER.
Oh Really
Have you ever heard of Altgens Ralph
quote: It stunned me so at what i saw, that i failed to do my duty and make the picture
Altgens then waited until the limo had gone past him and snapped Altgens 7
I stuffed up my frame numbering in Nix
The Ken McDonald composite below is correct
Ken’s composite frames appear in my gallery
http://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=135&page=3
This Full frame is equivalent to Ken’s N25 cropped frame
3-frame Nix GIF (N24,N25,N26)
Thursday, 6 August 2015
Motorcycle composite ( UPDATE )
Showing the black tool box just behind the riders seat
This “black tool box” is what i see on Hargis’s motorcycle in Mary’s Polaroid
Cinque has butchered the Zippo photo
What is this garbage ?
This is how it really looks…
Cinque quote:
Unfortunately, Jack White was wrong in saying that the Zippo lighter image of the Moorman photo was genuine.
Ralph is wrong as usual, Clint Hill is NOT visible in this frame
Two Nix frames showing Clint Hill as he appears from behind Mary Moorman
Wednesday, 5 August 2015
QUESTION
Who took the Zippo photo showing the Moorman Polaroid next to a Zippo lighter
ANSWER
After searching for hours, i thing i may have found the answer.
http://www.baylor.edu/lib/poage/white/doc.php/196925.pdf
Jack White quote:
So we are certain that the Moorman photo is genuine and never tampered with.
Obviously it is NOT full frame, as well as Newman being missing, so is most of the pergola area
I made no personal comments regarding a full frame.
As i pointed out in the post, the original essay came from Lancer, they were not my comments.
I posted the link, why didn’t you look at Lancer for yourself instead of jumping to conclusions.
that’s why we post links, so that you can confirm the information for yourself.
Here it is again.
http://www.jfklancer.com/moorman_essay/moorman_essay_2.html
Cinque is ignorant when it comes to the JFK photographic Research history (UPDATE 3)
Who said that this Moorman copy you posted was the “ORIGINAL” Cinque. ?
are you kidding ?
Original text Edited until i can clarify the provenance of the Zippo photo.
Josiah Thompson re: the Moorman copies
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14093
Zippo photo
Mary Moorman interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usHuJpWCIgY
Zippo crop
JFK Lancer
http://www.jfklancer.com/moorman_essay/moorman_essay_2.html
UPI COPY
After taking her famous photo, Mary Moorman moved back from the curb and dropped to the grass along with her friend, Jean Hill. Several photos and a WFAA news film show them sitting there. Later that afternoon, Moorman executed a Sheriff’s Department affidavit where she says, “When I heard these shots ring out, I fell to the ground to keep from being hit myself.” (19H487)
Seconds later, photos show Jean Hill’s red coat flaring as she runs up the steps of the grassy knoll. Moorman stayed on the grass. Moments later, Hill returned to find Moorman, standing at her original position and talking with James Featherston, court reporter for the “Dallas Times-Herald.” In 1993, Featherston told a reporters’ gathering what had been in his mind, “I wanted that picture, period. At the time, I thought that was the only picture in existence. Mary agreed to give me the film. I asked both of them to come back to the press room with me – which they did.” [NOTE: See ”Remarks by James Featherston at ‘Reporters Remember Conference’, Dallas, 11/20/93,” cited in “Pictures of the Pain” by Richard B. Trask (Danvers, Mass.: Yeoman Press, 1994), page 237.] Featherston spoke with the two women as they walked to Moorman’s car where she coated the Polaroids. Then he shepherded them to the “press room” in the Criminal Courts Building at the northeast corner of Main and Houston Streets. As he did all this, Featherston got their story. He also got from Moorman permission to copy her photo. Once in the press room, Featherston called his editor, Tom LePere, and gave him a run-down on what the two women had told him. The editor sent a runner over to pick up Moorman’s photo for copying and asked another reporter, Connie Watson, to take down Moorman’s and Hill’s stories over the phone.
Barb Junkkarinen is acquainted with Watson (now Kritzberg) and talked to her last week. Kritzberg recalled that Moorman clearly was upset that afternoon. “Stunned silence” were the words Kritzberg used in describing Moorman at the beginning of their talk. Kritzberg could not recall if Moorman said anything about where she was when she took her photo. Moorman didn’t remember how she got onto the ground and commented that she hadn’t seen anything since her eye was pressed to the viewfinder. In her book, Kritzberg commented that Moorman told her she “sank to the ground, or perhaps was pulled down.” (NOTE: Connie Kritzberg, “Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window”, (Undercover Press, 1994), page 15.)
The “Dallas Times-Herald” shared a photo lab with UPI who immediately distributed the picture to newsrooms the afternoon of the 22nd. A copy negative of the Moorman photo was made by an unknown employee and quickly returned to Moorman via Featherston. The “Times-Herald” then published the picture on Sunday, November 24. UPI purchased distribution rights to the photo from Moorman several days later. Through this distribution, the Moorman photo became an iconic representation of the assassination. The UPI copy, however, was usually cropped for distribution. Missing was the right side of the Polaroid print that shows Zapruder and Sitzman on the pedestal. In 1967, I searched in the files of UPI for the original copy negative and any full-frame prints. I found none. To my knowledge, neither the negative nor any prints of the uncropped Polaroid are extant in the UPI (now Corbis) files. The following photo came from the files of UPI and was used in producing the book, “Four Days in November.”
The following photo shows that a full-frame Moorman photo was distributed on the UPI wire on November 23, 1963.
NBC –TV Copy
The Moorman Polaroid was only absent from the Press Room for a short time while being copied at the “Dallas Times-Herald”/UPI photo lab. It was returned promptly to Moorman and was in her possession for an interview with NBC that occurred around 1:00 PM. A shot of her Polaroid was part of that interview and became one of the first photos of the assassination to be seen nationally when it was broadcast at 3:19 PM (CST) on the NBC network.